CFB Week 11 Line Guess Results

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Sham wins, but we both did worse this week, 2.23 vs. 3.67.



Sham: Let's start with this weekday's all too plentiful MAC crapfests. I have to say I'm legitimately surprised by the splits in favor of Buffalo on Tuesday night. Toledo and their horrid defense will get a look on Wednesday. The cream of the MAC Conference (Fake Miami and Crakron) will get looks later in the week as well. Thoughts about any potential plays during the week?

am19psu: Wow, I totally forgot about this. My real life needs to calm down.

My first thought about the weeknight games are: does the MAC really think they are getting that much more exposure by scheduling all of these weeknight games?

I guess Fake Miami and their 1-9 record will get my attention the most this week. I'm not really excited about any of them to be totally honest. I was looking at the volume of these games at Wagerline the last few weeks and it is well below average.

Both Big East games look unplayable as well.

S: The almost automatic Houston opponent lean is led this week by the UCF Knights. This time instead of being steamed down, Houston has actually gone up, I'm trying not to look too much into that.

19: Just what my life needs, more George O'Leary. That was one of those lines that I completely screwed up this week. Looking into it a bit further, the Knights really aren't bad for a CUSA team. They were in the game in both their league losses and looked semi-respectable against Texas for a half.

Going to another conference we rarely bet on, I was surprised by the Troy/Arky line. My guess was absurdly wrong, but I didn't realize any team in the Sun Belt was three touchdowns better than winless Eastern Michigan. I really need to pay better attention to the small conferences. Think the Hogs will attract enough action for a play?

S: I'm not sure how much action this game will attract but on the surface I like Troy in this one. It fits perfectly with square circular reasoning as Florida beat Troy 56-6 at home and Arkansas played Florida tough on the road before falling 23-20. I'm sure you'll see squares cite these two scores as justification for a play on the Razorbacks who by their estimates is about 47 points better than Troy, 14.5 should be no problem.

Let's focus on a team that is actually good, TCU. Will Utah +17 entice the casual bettor?

19: Yeah, Sun Belt team only getting two TDs on the road against an ESS-EE-SEE school ought to do the trick, let alone the transitive property you mentioned.

It's not often you see #4 -17.5 vs. #16 in the MWC. TCU is pretty clearly the side if there is one, but the way the Frogs have been rolling teams the last four weeks, I'm not sure Utes will be all that public.

This card generally sucks. Nothing else really jumps out at me except Nebraska only -4 against Kansas. Reesing has looked like garbage the last few weeks, but it's not like Nebraska's offense has been lighting it up either. Can you bring yourself to fade the Huskers?

S: I've done it before this year with Arky St (didn't work out so well). I was surprised to see the line this low and I'm legitimately worried about a letdown after the defense single-handedly defeated OU. It's a situation where I would normally be all over KU but I'll take a wait-and-see approach.

Any chance Penn St sneaks onto your card with so few options this week?

19: I doubt it. I'm already disappointed in this team. I don't need to be a drag on everyone in State College if they don't cover the three TDs.

I just looked over at Wagerline. Wow, there is a lot of ACC nonsense this week, isn't there?

S: That's for sure. Duke looks almost automatic against the Ramblin' Wreck. The continuous fading of Real Miami will most likely continue as well. NC St and Virginia will get a looks as well.

I was surprised by USC opening up as a double-digit fave against Stanford. You had other thoughts, care to elaborate?

19: I couldn't do math in my head after work yesterday? I added an extra four points of HFA to that line. Was it really that surprising though? Stanford closed at +6.5 at home against Oregon, flip that around to +13.5-14.5 on the road and Oregon was a three point dog to USC at home. Obviously some adjustment was necessary, since both teams are closer to USC in current power rankings, but it was clearly a double digit game to me. I just wish Stanford would have lost to Oregon. I don't think we're going to get much of a chance to play it, especially after Barkley's stinker on Saturday. It looks like you adjusted it too far and I didn't go quite far enough.

Last one, and I'll leave the commentary to you: how much of a dog does Iowa open as if Stanzi healthy?

S: I believe a healthy Stanzi puts Iowa at +10.5. Wow, just looked up this line and it has moved from the opener of 13.5 to 17.

OU is on my radar, but that line is trending upwards and I wouldn't be surprised to see it go past 21. Wake was a lean before Ponder went down with his season-ending injury. Notre Dame appears playable against a Top 10 Pitt team (didn't feel right typing that). ISU intrigues me as well, for whatever reason. Yeah, this card blows.

19: I would rather self castrate with a rusty spoon than back Jimmy Heisman. Until next week.

Week 10 Mumme Poll Draft

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Top Five
Florida
Alabama
Texas
TCU
Cincinnati

Next Seven
Boise State
Georgia Tech
Pittsburgh
LSU
Ohio State
USC
Oregon

I think the Top 7 were fairly easy to place. I guess Pitt is a legit Top 12 team now. Watch them lay an egg to Jimmy Heisman this week. LSU, Ohio State, USC, Oregon round out the tail end of my ballot because they would be favored over any team behind them. Please don't give me Houston or Utah. Houston was a one point favorite over Tulsa and TCU opened at -17.5 over Utah. Who else can you argue to put in? Miami sucks. Iowa really sucks. Penn State really really sucks against decent teams. Maybe Arizona, but they lost to Iowa. Go Frogs.

CFB Week 11 Line Guesses

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As usual, commentary tomorrow.

Sunday 11/8

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I'm probably getting too cute with this card today. I'm sure when neither total covers, I'll be in a perfectly logical state of mind to play the Spartans tonight.

1p HOU/IND u49 +110 3x
1p Washington +9 -107 3x
1p Tampa Bay +9.5 +101 3x
1p MIA/NE u46.5 +104 3x

I won't be playing anything at 4 o'clock, however the SNF under and SJSU might be on tap for the late night. Good luck.

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This is a good way to ruin a great week.

8p San Jose State +13.5 +103 5x
820p DAL/PHL u49 +108 3x

Good luck.

Saturday 11/7

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Headed out to watch The Most Boring Football Game Ever brought to you by the Big TenTM. Here is everything today. This has 2-6 written all over it.

12p Virginia +13.5 +104 3x
12p Purdue +6 +103 3x
130p Colorado +3 +101 3x
330p Iowa State +7 +107 3x
330p Stanford +7 +103 5x
730p Tulsa +1.5 +103 3x
8p Nebraska +4 +113 5x
8p Arizona State +10 +103 3x


My life feels incomplete without Juice or Paulus. Good luck.

Leans NFL Week 9/CFB Week 10 Revisited

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Definite Plays
12p Pur +6 @ Mich
12p UVa +13.5 @ Miami
130p Colo +3 vs. aTm
330p Stan +7 vs. Ore
330p Iowa St +7.5 vs. Okie St
730p Tulsa +1 vs. Hou
8p Neb +4 vs. OU
8p Ariz St +10 vs. USC
8p SJSU +13.5 vs. Nevada (Sun.)

1p WAS +10 @ ATL
1p TB +9.5 vs. GB

Borderline Contrarian Plays
12p Ill +7 @ Minny
12p Cuse +21 @ Pitt
12p Wyo +13 vs. BYU

835p DEN +3 vs. PIT (Mon.)

Borderline Volume Plays
1p UMd +6.5 @ NCSU
2p Baylor +14 @ Mizzou
4p SDSU +24.5 vs. TCU

Friday 11/6

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I floated this three hours ago then took a nap. There are much, much better prices available now.

8p Boise/LaTech u50 +110 3x

I'll throw up some leans later. Good luck.

Leans NFL Week 9/CFB Week 10

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Lots of weird line movement this week on the college side. I'm going to need to re-evaluate these much more closely later in the week. In the NFL, the card looks light again. Two to three plays a week was what I was shooting for at the beginning of the season, and it's worked out fairly well so far, except for Week Freaking Seven.

Definite Plays
8p LaTech +21 vs. Boise (Fri.)
12p Cuse +21.5 @ Pitt
12p Ill +6.5 @ Minny
330p Iowa St +7.5 vs. Okie St
330p Stan +6.5 vs. Ore
8p Neb +5.5 vs. OU

1p WAS +10 @ ATL
1p TB +10 vs. GB

Borderline Contrarian Plays
12p Purdue +6 @ Mich
1230p K-St +2.5 vs. Kansas
130p Colo +3 vs. aTm
8p Ariz St +10 vs. USC

Borderline Volume Plays
2p Wyo +13 vs. BYU
4p SDSU +24.5 vs. TCU
8p SJSU +14 vs. Nev (Sun.)

I expect a few games to slide off this list and a few to get added by Friday. The line movement is such a mind flip.

CFB Week 10 Line Guess Results

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Sham wins again, 2.13 to 3.13.



am19psu: Any thoughts on this week's lines, other than the amount of money we are going to lose on Stanford?

Sham: That game already has big play written all over it, line is definitely set to induce a play on the Trojan-slaying Ducks. It will be interesting to see how USC responds to being dominated for the first time in ages. Respect accrued from previous seasons seems to be gone as well seeing that USC is only -10.5 against ASU.

19: I'm not really all that surprised by the USC line. It's been obvious the last three weeks that this is not the same USC team of the last 7 years. Now the bookmakers have decided to adjust accordingly.

The short line that did surprise me was Houston. We touched on it last week a little bit, but the books (and apparently sharps) have zero respect for Houston versus the rest of C-USA, even with Kinne questionable after getting concussed against SMU.

S: Line was a surprise to me as well. Touching on the Houston/USM game for a bit. I feel bad for those who got down on USM +6.5 and don't have a local who jacks up his lines, in this case 7.5 (I'm trying to get everyone to hate me).

Getting to a non-BCS team that doesn't get their lines steamed every game, The Saw's favorite team, TCU. I've gone against them once this year when they played Clemson, but this week SDSU will get a look.

19: Count me on the TCU bandwagon, too. I mean, they're clearly not the best team in the country because of their talent deficit, but if you were a fan of say, I don't know, Penn State, would you want to face them in a BCS bowl?

In terms of this week's game, I'm not sure that game will have enough of a handle for me to play it, but it's obviously worth watching, especially considering the way TCU has destroyed the competition the last few weeks.

Let's get back to the BCS conferences. Earlier this season, the books put UF -10 @ LSU. We speculated on Saturday that Bama is 3-4 points worse than UF on a neutral field. You nailed the line, so has LSU gone up in your eyes, Bama/Florida dropped or a little of both?

S: I think the way LSU shut down a dynamic Pelican attack this past Saturday, limiting them to less than 3.8 ypp raises their profile in the eyes of many. Seriously though, I think LSU has shown a little improvement but people now have concerns over Bama, specifically their QB play. Roll Tide hasn't had a dominant victory since September against Arkansas. I think it's a little overblown and presents a decent look for Bama this week. As for Florida, I think their perception has dropped as well but they're still going to be favored over anyone on a neutral field.

Big game in my neck of the woods is OU -5.5 at Nebraska. Can I get your non-biased thoughts on this?

19: If Nebraska had a competent quarterback, they could be one of the best teams in the country. I watched maybe 10 plays in the game against Baylor Saturday, but one of them was an awful, telegraphed pick six from Lee. I hope Green starts for them on Saturday.

In terms of betting, I imagine if there is going to be a public side, it will be OU. Their losses were to BYU, Tha U, and UT, versus VT, TTech, and Iowa State for Nebraska. Plus, I have to think the perception of the Big 12 North is complete garbage. Is that what you were thinking?

S: *Green started last week for Lee, either way both are sub-standard

Exactly, add to the fact that it's the Saturday night game on ABC (along with USC/ASU) and I think the public sides with Oklahoma. Speaking of high-profile primetime games, it looks as though we'll be on the other side of coaching genius Chris Ault on Sunday night.

19: The Spartans are going to be one the most anti-public sides at Wagerline this week. Hopefully, the volume is low and we can pass it. Or, I can just donk off some late night units like I did on Arizona State two weeks ago.

Which QB are you looking forward to backing least on Saturday: Juice +6.5 or Paulus +21?

S: Ugh, don't make me choose. It's looking like my least favorite Duke guard turned Cuse QB will get the nod over Juice. Although in a perfect world both lines would get steamed and I wouldn't have to play either one.

There's not too much on the weekday docket except for La Tech, maybe a total will work its way in. I'm not even sure I could fade Temple even though they are facing a wretched Fake Miami squad.

19: How dare you, sir! Rules of Contrarianville implicitly state that fading Temple is strictly prohibited. Seriously, though, I think LaTech will end up being a play and I'll end up wasting a Friday night watching that garbage.

For the other "big" matchup of the weekend, I don't see much of an angle in the tOSU/PSU game. The under will probably be public, but I doubt we'll play a Saturday afternoon total.

Looking through the rest of the BCS lines, not a whole lot jumps out at me. Is the public aware Reesing got benched last week? Will Michigan be public after losing to Juice? Is anyone respecting Duke yet? Oregon State vs. Cal?

S: There's not much in terms of BCS Conference action. I've cooled off Wake against GT and Rizo vs Wazzu but those will be revisited later in the week. I like Clemson as a chalk look against an all offense no defense F$U squad. Any parting thoughts for the week?

19: That game seemed like a pass to me. The Dabos have been on a roll since losing to Maryland a few weeks back.

Parting thought: Stanford is a large play or a max play for you? I'm leaning large right now. If the game was on Thursday night or Saturday night, it would be a max.

S: Right now it stands as a large play, I don't see it going to a max.

19: At least our cards will somewhat small for another week. That is, until you get ambitious on Sunday morning again. Good luck this week.

CFB Week 10 Line Guesses

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Here are the guesses. Commentary tomorrow.

Week 9 Mumme Poll Draft

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Top Five
Alabama
Florida
Texas
TCU
Cincinnati

Next Seven
Oregon
Boise State
Iowa
Georgia Tech
LSU
Penn State
Pitt

Putting Pitt in the Top 12 bothers me, because both Ohio State and USC would be favored over them, but at this point I am valuing having one loss to NC State over having two losses to USC/Purdue or Washington/Oregon.

Sunday 11/1

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There is nothing I really like about the NFL.

1p Buffalo +3.5 -103 3x
1p SF/IND u44.5 +106 3x
415p Carolina +9 +112 3x